Some SMLEs may be found with as little as a 3 digit number and high as a 5 digit number. The bayonet and socket were one solid forging. The little safety spring has a Long Branch stamp,the front sight protector was made by the Singer Sewing Machine Co.,the magazine follower was made by Savage. Places that will have the serial information is on the bolt, receiver and normally the barrel. This example has a much finer finish on the socket than other No. 4 MK. wide. Very good 5 groove barrel. & S. Ltd." = Fred Fisher & Sons Ltd. "JW (S) Ltd." = John Wilson Ltd., Sheffield, "TRM.1", "TRM.2", and "TRM 3" = Tinsley Rolling Mills Co. Ltd. of Sheffield. The rifle functions beautifully, I'm just trying to track things down as much as I can. Adopted by the British Army in 1939 the No.4 came into full production during the height of World War 2. What is the letter to the right of the 'X' (proof mark) above the M.1944? 4 bayonets. These are now hard to find in any condition, but this example is near pristine. Date Packed: 7/8/57 During the Second World War, the British government curtailed the use of commercial trademarks to make it more difficult for the Germans to locate (and bomb) factories producing war materiel. Qty 1 This PSK No. Entrenching tool with helve (handle) that accepts the No. Lewisham marked their bayonets with "L. ENG. The example pictured at left also carries the Canadian "broad arrow" mark, indicating acceptance into Canadian service. The swivel was to be "low turret" in design so that the sling body would be stopped by the existing magazine loop - this allowed the sling to be "locked" in a diagonal exit path off the fore end at an ideal angle to wrap the bicep and provide sling position options for better steadying in all positions. For the rifles produced in North America, American black walnut was consistently used, with birch used as a substitute when walnut was not available. Speculation is that it may be a prototype from a design proposal that was not adopted. In the case of Savage Stevens the serial numbers began with a 0C1 and for Long Branch 0L1, these serials progressed in sequence directly relating the serial number to the number of rifles produced. 0000000016 00000 n The leather belt frog is of unknown origin. The No. Scabbard makers included: This uncommon scabbard has parallel sides and is made of very lightweight steel tubing. Henry Repeating Arms recently presented a $25,000 check a nonprofit organization that provides support and programs for the families and co-workers of firefighters killed in the line of duty. No. On the right the M47C, date and TR are as they should be - all else is modified, retouched or swapped out Socket (right): 1* is functionally the same as the Mk.1, but various changes were made in the design to make the manufacturing process faster. The Government assigned each manufacturer a Dispersal Code to use in lieu of their trademark. The factory was built by working around the clock during 1942 and was provided with capstans, drilling and milling machines, centre lathes, a steel-hardening and processing plant, and a centre-less grinding machine. Though, looking at the photos, it could mean the same. Singer and other producers (Savage has been observed). There are almost 2 years of rifle production that did not receive this triangular sling swivel at the factory and would have it added in service - especially prolonged Cold War British service - it is still possible to encounter a rifle that was an early discharge / loss that never received the triangular swivel update. The, The very first Maltbys and BSA's produced their own and used the associated early marks for each (large B for BSA, stylized M for Maltby). Rear Sights are flip-up adjustable aperature micrometer sights, not vertical leaf. I will have to check through Skennerton tonight. 4 Mk. The Lee Enfield by Ian Skennerton (2007) - ISBN: 9780949749826 . (125mm.) For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. LEE ENFIELD NO. One of the recent Pakistani surplus releases featured a range of No4T and their replacement parts - now circulating in European, Australian and USA markets. We specialize in all military surplus weapons from AK-47s, AR-15s, Mausers, CETME, Enfields, UZIs, and much more! SPONSORED. Sujet: Re: Lee Enfield No4 Mk1 vs Armes modernes en .308 Aujourd'hui 20:28: Pour en possder une, j'ai une tikka T3x tac en 308 , et 600m ft un temps les rsultats taient prometteurs . $15.50. (120mm.) The No. The No. 5 mm. 196,200 were produced, all by Joseph Lucas Ltd., Chester Street, Birmingham. No4 mk1 is stamped on the side of the reciever. Hollands also wrote the serial number of the rifle in pencil on the inside of the barrel channel on wooden fore end sections - just the serial number and not the letters have been observed. Other Nations Service and Replacement - Differing Nations have taken equipment from Great Britain and her colonies over the decades for frontline, secondary and domestic / internal service - Such as Italy and Holland immediately after WW2 - Israel and South Africa in the 1950s and 1960s India and Pakistan have kept their Lee Enfield's up and in reserve until a few years ago. Feb 9, 2020. The Enfield No4 MK1 was one of the most prominent battle rifles ever produced. The other day I bought a No.4 mk1 Lee Enfield from a gun shop and I need some help identifying it. II* socket forgings. 0000001570 00000 n 4 mm. 30,000 rod forgings. Quest starts at lvl15+. 4Mk. These bayonets equipped the 2ndNew Zealand Expeditionary Force. Lee Enfield #4 MK1 - MARSTAR CANADA. Since the Government arms factories were already running at capacity producing rifles and machine guns, private contracts were let for bayonet production. Copyright 2023 National Rifle Association, Women On Target Instructional Shooting Clinics, Volunteer At The Great American Outdoor Show, Marion P. Hammer Women Of Distinction Award, Women's Wildlife Management / Conservation Scholarship, National Youth Shooting Sports Cooperative Program, Exploded View: Short, Magazine Lee-Enfield, Mk III, 'A Grisly Business:' Australias Lee-Enfield Sniper Rifle, Reviving An Enfield: RTIs Imported No. The only maker was the Singer Manufacturing Co. (the famous sewing machine people), at their Clydebank, Scotland plant. All of the numbers on the metal (except the magazine) are matching. 4 Mk 1 was made only in America and Canada and featured an additional simplification omitting two parts and some machining operations that allowed the bolt to be removed from the receiver by aligning the bolt head perfectly with a gap in its guide slot along the side of the receiver. 4 Mk. 769 0 obj<> endobj Is, until the government created the dispersal codes in 1943. It was thought that these may have been used by Australian units serving alongside the British Army, however, Australian issue of these bayonets has not been confirmed. After collating needs and the shooting thoughts of the time, a triangular sling swivel was designed to replace the front trigger guard screw on all No4Ts built after November 1944. Mine only have the serial number (single letter, five numbers) on the butt socket. If you are slightly less lucky you may have a rifle, scope and accessories that have been used and "improved" by private owners and tinkerers, Here is how to spot original features, errant ones and simple techniques to step towards your chosen rifle impression - original factory - war years service - post war British service and post war International service - organized by parts group: Wrist markings: I was talking with a fellow enthusiast about BSA Shirley using electro-penciled serial numbers in production and so took some photos to explore this: Here we have a scopeless and virtually unfired 1945 No4T on the left and an "active service" No4T on the right that had its last service with India, other than the metal being painted with lumpy glossy black paint it is predominantly unchanged, On the left, the scopeless one exhibits all marks as freehand stamps through the blackened surface. III was declared obsolete in 1946. 4 rifle into at least the 1960s. It is stamped nothing at all like yours. mark) on a scopeless 1944 BSA. Sheffield Steel Products of Sheffield, Yorkshire. This condition remained until the end of the No4T life and the introduction of its replacement - the L42. Baird marked their bayonets two different ways: Some No. Fully functional barrel, receiver in 7.62 x 51 NATO. Singer continued using a similar markings, as used on the Mk. 1, Mk III, I Have This Old Gun: British Lee-Enfield No. Forging subcontractor marks tend to be very deeply struck. In 1943, Prince-Smith was assigned the dispersal code N56. 4 Mk. The British MoD was running short of scope brackets and cheek pieces as it started the L42 service extension program so new surplus examples are rare on the ground. This example bears the Canadian Government acceptance mark, indicating use by Canadian Forces. If anyone can help me out I would really appreciate it. Any stock of the P14 cheek pieces would have been transferred to the 4T program - first built by Enfield Lock and then by Hollands - it is not clear when these transitioned to new made cheek pieces. Four mouthpiece materials have been documented: Zinc Alloy (Mazak), Steel, Aluminum, and brass. I'll shoot some pictures of mine this weekend if you want. Nearly 5 million spike bayonets were reported produced. About the rifles. 4Mk. The world famous Lee Enfield in one of it's most popular incarnations, the Lee Enfield No.4 Rifle is one of our best sellers. The No. The No 4, Mk I* Lee-Enfield: Introduction - YouTube 0:00 / 22:26 Introduction The No 4, Mk I* Lee-Enfield: Introduction britishmuzzleloaders 83.5K subscribers Subscribe 10K 598K views. British Enfied rifle No.4 in action protecting a Bren gunner. No. More importantly, everything it makes has the performance to match. The following makers' codes are noted on some bayonet blades and scabbards, it is quite possible that they may also appear on firearms and related components. The period of manufacture is believed to be late-1940s or early-1950s. It is essentially an updated N0. The most common of these were: XP was used for the Shortened and Lightened Australian Lithgow (No6 Jungle Carbine) rifles, A was used for No1 MkVI trail rifles, BS was used on the British No7 small bore rifles, and T1 for the No5 small bore rifles. You can build more Battery Ammo and .303 at the Chem bench. by Saxon Cross 22 Mar 2012, 21:33, Post There must have been a lot of them to survive 2 world wars and all the action and attrition they were exposed to. This example was manufactured post-War for Belgium. 1 in 1939. Apart from the markings as stated above, you should take note of the woodwork. xb```b``^X,{%NIt#@4qz6lR9A!}klL61M?&`8p8feD'J 5'J1i&u K08|uN1+|^ T 5O.8,uM^rJV`[X;%!..@ ;~]m2G%Ey,' XtnxQc9!Lm1_h 1 Mk. 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However, the Rijkswacht (Gendarmerie) used the No. The Canadian Arsenals trademark was adopted in 1947 and replaced the Long Branch trademark used during the Second World War. . The last picture shows an unusual Prince-Smith mark comprised of a large "56" on the socket face. be forewarned, Spike Fever is contagious! 1 Enfield rifle was adopted by the United Kingdom in 1941. Parker Hale PH5DC Lee Enfield No4 rear sight and PH 'FS2A' foresight. 4Mk. II bayonet re-packaged in 1963 cardboard carton. Beechwood was used on some of the later war specimens and was extensively used on the rifles that were refurbished in the factories. 4 bayonets. examples with "E", "F" and "S" marks in a bright blued finish (often with a triangle that is a little too tight for the leather 1907 sling). 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