Thank you.. Or if she explained something to you one on one and you seemed iffy, shed ask if you have a doubt. Hell routinely ask me to send external invites for him, then 5 minutes later follow up with something like Has Bob accepted yet? That way, I hope, people know why theyre on the email and if they need to respond back. I do too! But dont you need to reply all with a request to be removed from a group email? We all have to remember that our way is not the only way. Are you available/free on Friday, let's say** 9 a.m.? I dont think Ive ever written please advise or received an email that ended this way, so it surprised me that so many people have such strong opinions on it. I never, ever, take a no answer personally. Can you check these teapots for errors? Example: Just checking in to see if theres anything else you need from me so you can complete the [thing you havent sent back to me].. Thats fine. But people tend to not like such things. BUT really. Prefacing the word reminder with gentle or friendly is a feeble attempt to soften the blow. Sue: I like the wool one better. +1. Agreed. Quick and gentle fall into the same category for me, with gentle being more annoying but quick also being annoying. Currently leaning toward Option 2 or Option 4. Boss: Theyre all fine, I dont have any real preference. When I see it, I interpret it as, I dont expect you to have any objections or questions to this, so the next thing I should be sending you is my thanks to you for letting me know its done, and Im just going to get that out of the way right now. I make allowances in my head for the possibility that the sender doesnt actually mean that, but I always give a little mental grrr when I see it. I use it in much the same way, and Ive never been told to cut it out (directly or indirectly). I also accept Venmo, Cashapp, and Zelle as payment, let me know if you have any questions. Oh FFS we havent even closed this topic yet and youre diverting the attention to something else? I was really helpful. If you feel the organization is still interested in my application, please let me know as soon as possible and we can discuss how best to move forward. I do use IM chats for quick questions. (I hate picking a closer the most (in email-writing), I think its related to aspergers-y symptoms but it could just be a social anxiety thing). Or something to that effect. Please click the link that we've sent to this address to post your question to our experts.Ok, I'll check my email. And from people who should have known better than to reply all! I explained it a third time, very slowly, and very carefully. Any help would be . I thought text is edit by machine, but it's real editor.Stunning! From the Cambridge English Corpus His preferred option is theory of mind ability, which underpins processes of cultural learning and cultural accumulation and transmission. I bet these are the same thrifty people who are saving their turn signals for some special occasion. My boss has a thing for highlighting key words, e.g., I will NOT have contact with the printer or Please be sure to save ALL files to the shared drive. I understand shes trying to stress the importance of the message, but the caps feel distrustful to me. Please advise is one of a handful of conventions I use to (hopefully) make my emails easier to read, especially if it is necessary to include a lot of detail in the body: Subject line that indicates what the recipient should do with the email FYI, Action required, Question about chocolate teapot spout training, Advice on incorporating milk chocolate in redesigned teapots, etc. (I got that salutation a lot from coworkers in my office but rarely from folks in other offices.) Like We had someone call from a company trying to sell us a bridge, so I took their name and number and told them someone from the bridge purchasing department would call them back. Prefer please let me know your preference please advise which one you prefer 20%OFF ,,,, 3. Thanks, I dont think I would even know what that meant. I find this thread fascinating. And I definitely wouldnt instruct others not to do it, since its really just a personal preference on your part, not a rule thatthey should be following in general. I hear it said sincerely much more often, but the passive-aggressive use is out there. I suspect itd be relatively easy to write a business email assist function that would help people compose nicer, clearer, more consistent emails. Yikes, I learned to do this when I worked in a law firm and often end emails this way. My current manager is really fond of the smiley faces in outlook, so I have a rule button that replies to messages with just a smiley face. Is the writer at a higher level than you in the company? is also grammatically sound but a bit less formal. Its not passive aggressive. If kids notice this stuff, its going to be even more obvious to adults. Its actually pretty nice, IMO I hate when someone calls me unexpectedly and wants me to look into some issue while Im in the middle of something (and hence most of the time I dont answer the phone if Im not expecting a call). I wanted her to speak to the newbie staff members and ask them not to park in that spot. Maybe Im doing it all wrong, but it works for us. I mean, what other phrase could you possibly use to indicate that youre ready to help the next person in line? I dont use it all the time but will use it occasionally when she has dropped the ball again and pulled a Charlie Brown* on us. Apparently its a standard phrase in Indian English (and not at all meant to be insulting), and Ive seen it in emails between Indian coworkers a few times now. I own a small business called Archetype Origins LLC, I will send you an invoice if you prefer to pay with a credit/debit card (taxes may apply). In relation to #2 I have had emails from two months ago resurface for an entirely different conversation. Didnt know this was such a well known meaning! :) and yes, there are a lot of customary informal misspellings there. Bold is betterI can understand it for dates, times, conference rooms, key info of that sort. Could be some weird cultural tick at my company, so its not like that everywhere. I dont usually go for five opening questions before my real question, especially in instant messaging. There was pretty much no correct response you could give. If both are wrong then what would be the right thing to say. Input your text below. For awhile, I used Ten-four! with another manager as kind of a joke to let her know I got a message, but it doesnt really work with everyone. Ive received what are your thoughts? / please advise / do you have input/feedback? and all of them seemed appropriate to the situation. And I never, ever, raised an issue or sent an email to that manager again. Your text is being reviewed by one of our Experts.We will notify you when your revision is ready. Please advise means the situation is complicated and doesnt lend itself to an easy question, or there isnt time to articulate one, or theres a lot of separate questions, etc. Or at the very least tell him what I think needs to be done, and just ask for his sign-off that its ok. Ive actually built a macro into our corporate chat program where I type (512 and it expands into (512) 123-4567 or tell me your # and Ill call you. On many email systems, IT folks can lock down the major email lists with a restriction on who can send emails to them. Okay. This is such an interesting conversation. Friendly reminder is bad too. Also, I dont mind it at all if people skip leaving me voicemail and instead email or IM with a request for me to call them back. They tend to ping out emails on the hoof: Just heard that Wakeen has a problem with the Lid Committee. Just this morning I had to send out a second reminder to someone about turning in something that should have been turned in two weeks ago. You guys are amazing. Do (b)not(/b) leave your belongings at the front desk. Well, to be fair, I was trying to derail his political career. :). I think I agree with the letter writer on this one. In most cases, I find that the person writing this at the end of an email already asked me a question in the email. I had other people read them and they never got angry from my emails, they said my emails read as clear and matter of fact. I interpret it in one of the following ways: Erm, your phone doesnt make outbound calls? Earlier today I used it, as I was supposed to send a part out on a specific flight. Do they already have cause the be upset with you? So I just describe the situation as briefly and clearly as I can and say something like please advise or Id appreciate your thoughts on this or Id really appreciate your help (leaving with the above nightmare unstated!). I agree with the response, the person is merely probably wrapping up the email. I tend to agree, yet, I can have a hard time applying this idea sometimes. But she would write EmilyG, there is no copier paper left, do you know where to order some? But if they are generally fine as coworkers, then youre better off not reading into how ever they phrase their emails. Or someone is just trying to convey some type of information to a group of people using intermediaries so they dont have to micromanage every department like the district manager to the dept. And you could argue that business email is its own special little dialect. Me too. We have enjoyed serving you for the past five years. Like youre reminding a toddler Timmy, we do not hit our friends in the face with our shoes.. Please advise.. One of the problems with "Please advise" is that advise is a transitive verb, that is, it must have an object. And, since it apparently means please do what it takes to fulfill my request, I have a feeling that, even if it translated well into English, itd still drive people up the wall. I think part of what gives it that differing connotation is who is essentially armed in the conversation. With a little picture of Puss in Boots from Shrek, holding his hat and with The Eyes. How come I did not think of that??? 2. There are a lot of things that I wish someone would have told me about at the very beginning especially email etiquette. or Request you to note the dates and let us know way forward. I gave it another try, coming at it from another angle. Thats how I use it too. On that note, I also hate Thanks in advance. so if I suddenly decide Im not doing this for you, will you be sending another email revoking that thanks, then? No errors on these teapots. The original poster sounds like an arrogant primadonna. I agree that using it the opposite way irritates. as is brekky, I think. When its just one delinquent person I usually begin with Hey I hate to be a pest but. There must be a lot of secretly snotty people in the South who are thinking mean things when they say Bless your heart, but Im glad Ive not met them. I use please advise, but I use it sparingly, usually after I have presented options and just need some help deciding which option would go best for this particular situation. No, its not just related to Aspergers! I will have to watch these. i really like it and never considered that it could be seen as condescending! I think thats exactly it. I dont use the phrase for one of the reasons Alison mentioned: Its too formal for my taste. Makes sense to me; Im asking for advice from my boss. Half the kids in the class were keeping track of how many times she said it. And Id hope that someone would cut me some slack should I unknowingly pick the wrong set of words. Can I help anyone? versus Who was next? I dont like How should I handle? either, but I cant quite put my finger on why. Did we actually want to purchase this item? This. of these changes. 5. oh, thats a good clarifying point. With no punctuation. Yes, I have lots of thoughts about this. As far as I know , we use "prefer" to express our preferences in general and we use "would prefer" in special occasions. I'm definitely trying to be polite! s.src = "https://cdn.iubenda.com/iubenda.js"; I picked up the doubt thing from a really awesome math professor I had in college who would ask does anyone have any doubts? after going over something on the board. Im surprised too. My brain says this when reading it: You just asked me a question. talk to you SOON. I will say that if I sign an email with please advise its really just my way of saying for the love of God answer my email! update: how can I turn down training requests from my clients? But, I think more often than not thats not the case. Im a conduit for information but dont have all the answers. is not business-like as you said. I use cheers too, but its OK because Im British :). I think Ive probably written Thanks so much in advance too but more when its part of a longer exchange where the other person has already suggested the thing Im now saying Yes, please do that to, not just cold. Often, one person or department will need to make a decision that effects my clients. its only used when i know theyll do it. (Usually from a higher up.), I have to admit that I do use the term please advise AND in all caps to one certain person in our company. I dont really like the gentle reminder phrasing, but I guess I dont necessarily see a way around sending reminders. This is interesting. I always felt like my reaction was unreasonable, but its definitely a strong one! If you have an actual question, please ask the actual question directly. yeah I agree. my pet peeve is when people say please advice. The latter has a different meaning. portraitsbystanda.com. They are rarely, if ever, able to clearly articulate their reason(s) and at that point, I ask them to please refrain from using it in communicating with me. Haha, I see people mentioning that here all the time but I have never received an email that said anything about doing the needful. This! ", Reliable, meticulous and astonishingly prompt. I also accept Venmo, Cashapp, and Zelle as payment, let me know if you have any questions. I just say, Hi can you tell me if blahblahblah? and just wait their response (if Im IM-ing them its not that urgent). I dont know. One comment noted that please advise can be the equivalent of a punt: Heres this crappy thing Ive been trying to deal with. Although I would agree that there are worse email offenses. Are they consulting you as an expert who has information they dont have? I admit that Im sometimes inclined to send a not-so-gentle reminder by the time Im sending the xth reminder. I would definitely let this one go.. Please advise rubs me the wrong way, too. I think the phrase Please advise means Define my problem, then solve it for me. As such, I think its a pretty irritating/lazy way to ask for help. Let me know when you are free in this week to discuss Let me know your convenient time in this week to discuss grammaticality I often use please advise when faxing physicians to clarify a prescription. Option 1 likely will result in this behavior but Option 2 will accomplish this.. Its fine that you personally dont like it, but its not passive aggressive and I am not sure where you get the impression that it almost always is. I generally think thats a fair assessment by the writer, so maybe thats why it rarely annoys me. Current Job involves getting buy-in and approvals from various far-flung parts of Big Bank whose employees are generally overworked, overwhelmed, or just dont know/care about Current Job, because Big Bank manages crisis-to-crisis without ever resolving underlying structural issues because hey, why should they? AHHHHH. You may think please advise is bratty, but the person sending it may think they are just being professionally neutral. The sender was supposed to gather enamel samples to base a decision on, but flaked on doing it. By continuing to use this website, you agree to our Terms of Service. So, I figured, maybe Im explaining this badly. -All commissions are posted to my socials and my portfolio - if you would prefer it not to be, you must mention this before I submit the artwork to you. From the Cambridge English Corpus Let me know what you think. Im a little behind. managers. Check availability now! Comment: Today more than 1001 people got their English checked. 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