A bunch of plastic, hexagonal terrain that you can build in different ways for every battle. Batter might be a bit messy, although you could make pancakes after, I suppose. Every time I see it I see something I've never seen before! It keep them from shifting around too much and provides some protection. In the classic BattleTech board game, as well as in most other games set in the BattleTech universe, the main gameplay takes place on a mapsheet with hexagonal playing fields. 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This box contains two all-new mapsheets in the new thick cardboard style of the HexPacks and Kartensets that were designed specifically for this product, labeled "Mine" and "Country Side 3": Map Pack Worldwide Event 2018 Terrain Set, And Hell Followed With Him Worldwide Event 2020, Your BattleTech News Roundup For January, 2023, Your BattleTech News Roundup For December, 2022, Experimental Technical Readout: Royal Fantasy, Catalyst Game Labs Link - Grasslands BattleMat, https://www.sarna.net/wiki/index.php?title=Mapsheet&oldid=932302. WH40K - Imperim of Man: - Space Marine Terminator Armour (Exosuit) - Imperial Knight (light Mech) - Warhound Titan (medium Mech) - Reaver Titan (heavy Mech) - Warlord Titan (assault Mech) - Imperator Titan (super-heavy Mech) Image details. A map set focused on unusual biomes, with two double-sized, 34 x 22", double-sided paper maps. since the novels and the fluff also describe some as being larger and smaller than others, this is probably an average figure, not a universal one. And you'll likely want additional 3d terrain to put on top. The PDF-only Touring the Stars: Noisiel contains six printable maps and rule expansions to play the Mech games that make Noisiel famous for their Summer Games. Since this product was not published directly by a BattleTech IP owner or licensee, its status as an official product is arguable. Terrain rules. Your friendly neighborhood Periphery pirate! Battletech: Hardware Studios Dropships size comparison & next paint schemes Cranky Old Gamer 2.77K subscribers 2.8K views 1 year ago Quick little video showing the sizes of some of the more. I like the bigger miniatures, it gives more detail. Does anyone know if there is a chart or table or something somewhere that lists the height of each mech in meters? So stupid big is stupid without magic technology and materials. 2. add battletech folder to exclusion list for windows defender. It may not display this or other websites correctly. EDIT: Just noticed above the BattleTech ships are the ships from freakin' WALL-E! Hex sides were printed with various colors to show the changes in terrain features and elevations that could affect the use of certain abilities and equipment. This allowed maps to be included in some sourcebooks, too. All the official TT sources stay within the same general size ranges that has always been the same. It's your world. Mech minis are of kinda inconsistent scale anyways. Thanks guys, appreciate all the advice and knowledge. Due to their size and tonnage, ProtoMech weapon loadouts are somewhere between that of battle armor and 'Mechs. Press J to jump to the feed. My dad has recently gotten me into Battletech and we are planning a full scale campaign. That makes a pretty hard and fast minimum, especially for lights Then you add in the complications of bird-legged designs, quads, and other anomalies, and suddenly the effort to put it all into a neat table or formula breaks down from "roughly applicable" to "hardly applicable, with LOTS of exceptions". [11] After the Great Refusal and the destruction of the Smoke Jaguars, many Clans launched raids on Huntress in order to acquire the technology for their own purposes. 1st Battalion, 91st Royal Battlemech Regiment, 26th Light Brigade Combat Team, 61st Infantry Division, XXVII Corps, Eleventh Army, SLDF. BattleTech MegaMat Display at Gen Con 2021. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. On a standard mapsheet the hex size as originally printed is approximately 1.25 inches and depicts terrain 30 meters (roughly 100 feet) across. Of course CBT has never been about scale really but using the Clix as CBT probably wouldn't be too good of an idea. ProtoMechs nine tons and under are also not equipped with ejection systems, and cannot dump ammunition in an emergency. Similar to how Victor managed to behead the Jaguar Khan. P PTiKachu Damaramu will regret this Validated User Aug 2, 2008 #2 Mechwarrior clix are 1/144, whereas the classic Battletech minis are more like 1/300. I can't cite a source, but I'm fairly certain 9.5m is way too short for a SHD. So youre free to refer to the general size comparison chart from TRO3039, use any of the video-game based charts available or make up a scale that you feel is sensible on your own. So run of 6. BATTLETECH. You gotta fit a dude in the head. From 2002 until 2008 the various game supplements, including map sets, were produced under the "Classic BattleTech" moniker to differentiate them from supplements for the "MechWarrior: Dark Age" brand. Unlike the bulky Elementals, this new breed would need to be smaller so that they would be able to fit into the cramped confines of a ProtoMech's torso. This page was last edited on 24 February 2023, at 15:28. (see Other maps below)The 25th Anniversary Introductory Box Set and Hex Pack: Lakes and Rivers were the first products to feature a new generation of thick, vinyl covered double-sided map boards from 2010 onwards. [1], This basic mapsheet, two of which are included in each boxed set, is a standardized size and has an addressing scheme printed on the map in a staggered row and column format. Mini scale is one of the most confusing things in Battletech. If one side has CBT minis and the other has the MWDA figs, it's going to look pretty stupid, but shouldn't affect gameplay. A lot of the heights are derived from their Mecha inspirations out of anime. Attempts made to breed a new kind of warrior for the ProtoMech ended in failure, leaving the scientists no choice but to use volunteer Aerospace pilots who had failed to test into the Warrior Caste. The Centurion mapsheets fold out to the equivalent of two BattleTech maps. The Blood Spirits were the first Clan to begin a full-blown training program. How's it sit? It's amazing how many fandoms are represented. Most of these terms have survived since the Age of Sail, and were updated to reflect the realities of space combat. A lot of series go big and never really explain it or do anything with it. Great find! Most infantry work pretty well, and their bases are practically the same size as a hex, if you don't feel like rebasing. There was one such map for each (Light, Medium, Heavy and Assault-class) "Solaris VII Action Pack" set and one for the "Youngblood Training Field" that went with the Atlas and Marauder promotional pieces. (The BattleTech 25th Anniversary Introductory Box Set may have been intended to be the first product featuring these improved maps, but its release was delayed until 2011 by other issues.). Smoke Jaguar scientists found that if something wasn't done soon, their Clan worlds would soon be stripped of the ores needed for BattleMech production. The "Woodland" map was first published with BattlePack: Fourth Succession War in 1998 before it was included in Map Set #6 two years later. The sympathetic bond between man and machine can also lead to a kind of "god complex" in which the pilot feels as though they are unstoppable. The printed size of a standard mapsheet is 22 inches by 18 inches (not 22 by 17 as many rulebooks suggest). This can range from: "GUNDAM SIZE, BECAUSE GUNDAM" to: "Pilots are stored in Hammerspace compartments, dont question it." HA1-0F 2nd Donegal Guards So 4v4/5v5 is two maps, 8v8/10v10 is four maps, 12v12/15v15 is six maps, etc. The BattleForce mapsheet is a double size mapsheet, being exactly twice the width, in hexes, of the standard BattleTech mapsheet, with columns from 01XX to 32XX. So I guess the answer is 1:285 (6mm) is "considered" default but the other two are likely to work. Lyran Commonwealth,6th Donegal Guards-Nightstar. Count the heat hawk as an axe. Some use bulkier materials, some don't. However, this will give you just one (albeit large) map. Maps included: Large Mountain #1, Deep Canyon #1 (double-sided). It is shorter in height than most BT hovers but once elevated on a base I think it will not be very noticeable. For nearly a day and a half we were an island of resistance in a sea of Falcon Green. But vinyl maps are less awesome. German edition published in 1993 as "GeoTech II" (see below). Although the battle was ultimately lost, the ProtoMech's debut could not be ignored by the other Clans. Lucky I found this post as I was wondering the same question and I have to say that, thanks to Sigma's pics (scales generally go over my head), the size differences on some of them is mad! evilauthor. Vehicles and dropships are also compared as well. ~Orin J. Random internet musings of a BattleTech writer are not canon. Cookie Notice The back was a blank hex board in earlier editions; such blank playing fields are not considered tournament-legal maps though. Additionally, though the highly-advanced heat sinks used by ProtoMechs means they never build up heat from firing their weapons or moving, they are more adversely affected by extreme temperatures, including fire and Inferno ammunition, than 'Mechs. When the BMR said Mechs averaged between 10 and 12 meters, I strongly took them at their word, meaning only a handful of designs broke the mold. The only known combat deployment of these hybrid ProtoMechs was during the Blakist strike against the Capellan Confederation world of Necromo in late 3071 and it is not known if they were the first of their kind or a technological dead end. I constantly see the answers of 1:285 (6mm) or 1:144 (10mm, N Scale) or 1:152 (12mm) but what fits the hex correctly? Compare that to something like the 16-inch (406 mm) naval guns on most US battleships of the same era, which had a range of over 40 km, and you see just how meaningless a gun's bore size can be. I also like the smaller size of the old unseens. Re: Official height (dimensions) of Mechs and Vehicles? Cubed square law means the bigger the structure the exponentially weaker it becomes. Not all mechs are the same. dropship/mech size comparison . on: 15 September 2012, 21:08:30 . Does it really matter if one mech is bigger than another in scale? After a couple requests and seeing several comments other places asking about the size comparisons of the 2 games overlapping mecha, here you go.want to take. Typically, two mapsheets would be included with every boxed set. Players are free to create hex-based terrain to play on, and earlier mapsheets had backs with blank hex grids on which players could draw terrain features as desired. Btech scale jumps around less but tries to stay around 1:285 if it can. Others like the Gorgon can provide fire support, though not to the same degree that heavier vehicles can. As luck would have it, the decision proved fortuitous: Clan aerospace pilots' small bodies allowed them to easily fit inside the cockpit of a ProtoMech, while their brains and circulatory systems, bred to withstand high-G maneuvering, could better endure the negative side effects associated with the EI system. If I were to give a rough estimate to go by I would say light mechs 8 meters, medium 9, heavy 10, assault 11. This gave room for the pilot to ride in the torso while still allowing ample space for weapons. I do not see Traveller ships on there anywhere. It has no impact on gameplay. Those equipped with arms are also unable to flip or reverse them, requiring that they twist their torso to hit opponents directly behind them.[13]. Published by licensee Ulisses Spiele Hardware Handbuch 3039 is the German edition of Technical Readout: 3039 (TRO:3039).Unlike previous TROs, this edition matches the original edition in all aspects. The models were very clean with no, or minimal flash. #1 How does the mechwarrior figs compare in size to the regular Battletech guys ? It's not for everyone. Besides six individual maps, the MapPack Flatlands Terrain Set was published that combined those six maps for a lower price. I used the blue for cutting out lakes, ponds and rivers, greens for light/heavy trees, black/gray for buildings, roads and city base layer. I am sure this is on here somewhere but I am to tired and lazy to look. In addition, there are a number of monikers that arguably fall between class and role definitions. I try not to think about it to much. Your enemies might have a few anti-air mechs or vehicles that will easily eliminate fighteres and need to be taken out. up until the first edition of Map Set 2) the BattleTech maps were printed on thick cardboard similar to the maps included with the BattleTech 2nd Edition and CityTech boxed sets.Starting with the second edition of Map Set 2 (1991) and the BattleTech, Third Edition (1992) boxed set, maps were printed on thinner paper. Like battle armor and 'Mechs, Protos can mount jump jets which further increases maneuverability. [citation needed]. Although a number of "official" mapsheets exist for BattleTech, players are by no means required to use these. The EI control system laid the groundwork needed by Smoke Jaguar scientists for controlling the ProtoMech. "There's a difference between the soldier and his fight. I always justify it with things like ff armor is bulkier than standard, xl engines are bulkier than standard. It keep them from shifting around too much and provides some protection. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, Somewhere between dawdle and a Leviathan full of overkill. A map set focused on the desert biome, with six 17 x 22", double-sided paper maps. the novels describe the height as 10 meters (32.8 feet). By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. it's a bit comforting knowing that to fire we're a same color- flammable. Kinda bummed they didn't include the real big ship class from 40k, though. I never worry about the cannon of things until that cannon is pointed in my direction. The Atlas is (If I recall correctly) about 11 or 12 meters in height and is one of the taller 'mechs. Dubbed ProtoMechs, the ultimate goal of these machines was for a Point of five, working in unison, to be as effective as a BattleMech, while requiring less than half the amount of construction resources. Beyond these it should be noted that some products like the Turning Points series typically include maps such as individual planetary maps for the worlds featured. [6][7][8] Unlike classification, the distinction between Large and Small WarShips does have certain effects under the game rules. It's like saying "hey! A high-quality neoprene map set focused on aerospace, with one double-sized, 36 x 22", double-sided BattleMat. FASA product #1618. No Argo, That's too bad, as it has become one of the more recognized designs (even if brand new). If so, does anyone have examples on hand for comparison. FanPro product #10990, released in 2003. Sets with other playing maps were later produced as game supplements. Disclaimer: I posted in this topic simple because its the first topic that google search will deliver. Because of their size and the specialized nature of their construction and components, ProtoMechs cannot utilize XL engines, Endo-Steel, ferro-fibrous armor, Targeting Computers, Double Heat Sinks or MASC (though they do have access to a superior alternative to MASC, in the form of the ProtoMech Myomer Booster). Edit - if you are using any of the recent Catalyst campaign books, these maps will be used. ), Your BattleTech News Roundup For January, 2023, Your BattleTech News Roundup For December, 2022, https://www.sarna.net/wiki/index.php?title=WarShip_classification&oldid=937185. So 4v4/5v5 is two maps, 8v8/10v10 is four maps, 12v12/15v15 is six maps, etc. Create maps that suit your needs. This, combined with their smaller engines, would allow the Smoke Jaguars to make many more of these for less material. 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