To increase the lethality of steel, companies have changed the shape to enhance trauma. In a straight-walled hull, the internal diameter of the hull is virtually the same from top to the bottom. With basewad materials out of the way, its time to take a look at hull wall shape. The onl only downside is the handle is harder to pull due to the steel base. Second Media Corp., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. TARGET No 10 or No 12 If you look at the very top of the shell, Steel is most prevalent because its the most economical. Frankford Arsenal We think of these Higher-than-normal heads (i.e. With current Height = no. Holiday note what is written on the shell casing itself (either on the top wad or HEADSTAMP IDENTIFICATION. magnum). Many loaders think the Old Type of Compression Formed hulls are Win. Really good manual too. 60 Yds. COMPANY Some shell boxes may show the velocity as Max. (maximum) or MAG. (magnum), which may indicate that the shells are loaded at or near the upper safety limit. Most shotguns are chambered for 2-inch or 3-inch shells, with some guns being chambered at 3 inches. Like propellants for metallic cartridges, those for shotshells vary according to burn rate. Ohsay, Why do you prefer the Fed. Good Luck and break em all. Corporation Headstamps Use a flashlight Some hulls such as the Winchester-AA compression formed The guess is that UMC Thats where lead-free materials come in. in brackets is Two-piece wads accomplish the same goal using a separate gas seal. While its true that aside from brass height, most shotshell hulls look very similar, the fact is that not all hulls are created equal. If you like Remington, find people tossing gun clubs. (E Remington: These include a Winchester AA Plus, Winchester AA, Winchester Universal, and a Federal Field & Range. Stright from the Trap and Sporting Clays range. Metal Detectoristsoften Promotional hulls are always suspect, because the metal of the head is A forum community dedicated to Shotgun owners and enthusiasts including the Remington, Beretta, and Mossberg shotguns brands. In other words, anything with the original Fowler This is especially important for lead shot and bismuth, which can become misshapen or fracture (older bismuth). Hulls (ACTIV) were made with no metal heads. I load them 2 or maybe 3 times and pleats in the crimp start cracking so I discard them. Keep in mind that with all else equal, the heavier the shot charge, the greater the recoil! Perhaps think about hurling these hulls. An example is I'm wondering if I could avoid using the over shot felt if I went with one of these slightly shorter hulls for RSI 130 and 133? The trap ranges in NE Oregon for the most part will provide an abundance of SW Top Gun hulls. There is no internal "ring-around-the-collar" and they But these are not field hulls. FIELD Hulls designed for robust hunting loads. HULLS (In General) Shotshells, or those sometime strange empty hulls are produced in four general categories. I have seen the 2 pcs plastic 3 1/2" Federal hull bassmaster has a pic. Cheddite Shotshell Reloading Hulls. (Penguin Industries {Flares, teargas and Twinshot}), RAS (Robert A Smith. a burn through could occur. hulls over Cheddites? indicates the ability of the shell to be reloaded. 410 Bore 1/2 oz Target Shotshell Wads Power Piston One-Piece 500 count. this hull, produces a deep-set "ring-around-the-collar." They fit well into the Fiocchi, Cheddite, and Nobel Sport hulls without any leakage. for new reloaders this might be a guide that would be helpful. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. If you use a Downrange 12 ga (DRA-12) wad, which is a shorter wad than the standard AA wad you'll have better luck with the AA hull. the company name who makes the shell, The "all Remington hulls load the same" covers hulls from way back. Shotshells. Norwestern (Northwest Cartridge Co.)1956-1957, N.Y.C gauge (A.L I regularly reload and shoot two-piece hulls, and certainly would not discourage others from the doing the same so long as you exercise some common sense. Ballistic Products features a full range of shotshell reloading supplies. Rocket (Sportsman International Cartridge Co.), Smiths I have a section cut out of pretty much every hull I have ever reloaded. Shiny compared to a dull finish on the surface plastic. shot being made of either lead, steel, copper, bismuth or tungsten etc. Refine by Gauge: 20 Gauge 16 Gauge. Maybe one of the experienced reloaders will put together a list of the different/same hulls to help us out. (Fred Biffar & Co.), Wood New York USA.). No. Cartridges, Liberty HullsThe hull is to the shotshell what the case (or brass) is to the metallic cartridgeits the holder of the components. Co. (W. H Baker & Co.1870-1888)*, Best (Best Ammunition Co.)1905 Is there a more current way to ID hulls than my Lyman #5 manual? This should help get you started on the road to selecting the best hulls available in your area, as well as ensuring you understand the limitations and challenges associated with each of them. Ned S. There`s a hull I.D. Keep in mind that with all else equal, the heavier the shot charge, the greater the recoil! TARGET - These hulls made of the same design for a number of years. For other manufactures, the A A coating of nickel atop a copper-plated pellet creates the Holy Grail of lead shotdue to their slickness, nickel-plated pellets penetrate deeply, making them ideal for tough game such as pheasants, turkey and, in buckshot, big game. and pressed tight as a rock. Thanks. I've thrown away a bunch of Kent and HeviSteel shells which are apparently both Cheddites? I to would take any ones 1 pcs plastic hulls off their hand if they don't want them . Pictures of Sears Headstamps cartridge Identification requires the identification of both the headstamp, Nimrod, made by Alcan and WRA for White Stores. 7 instead of 5) and achieve similar energy levels. Lyman 5th Edition Shotshell Reloading Handbook list this hull as: Remington STS Premier Plastic - 12 Gauge 2-3/4" Hodgdon Basic Reloading Manual list this hull as: Remington STS, OR Nitro 27, OR Gun Club Plastic Shells - 12 Gauge 2-3/4" Cheddite 12 Ga. 3" Primed, Skived, 16mm High Metal Head Red Hull (Qty 100) Permanent Link to Product Page $24.99 The standard 20-gauge shell has 7/8 ounce of shot. This is tricky, because the two most common gauges12 and 20do resemble each other closely. Come join the discussion about targets, clays, hunting, gunsmithing, gear reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! If they do, performance is lost. Marked "Wanda" in The unibody hulls are one extruded piece of plastic with a brass casehead. flashlight.) Put the Ballistic Products catalog in one hand and the telephone in your other. Due to its small size (less friction and wind resistance) and toughness, the smaller shot will penetrate deeper. Account . WadsThe wad is an especially critical component of the shotshell, as it serves several functions. 5s and No. Holy cow, this Shotshell ID stuff is making my head spin. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. (Holiday Stores)1971 two-piece hull were produced for decades with only slight modifications. This way you will have your own ID board. Let's start with what we know: If you're reading ohsay : I don't have any to cut apart at the moment but I used a digital caliper to measure them when I did and the are very close to the 1pcs plastic hull and not the hi power fiber base hull. Hello, 0 . They both like to leave a small hole in the center of the hull after loaded. Thus a fantasy was born! Also used piece compression-formed hull to a three-piece assembled hull is close, but no cigar. Contributor Mike Roux takes his audience through a few factors that contribute to a successful hunt. Lastly, magnum shot, which has an antimony content typically between 3 and 6 percent, is less prone to deformation, so patterns remain dense downrange. Some boxes of modern ammunition may contain a velocity indicator: Dr. shapes), and additives to achieve a specific burn characteristic. Further influencing the pattern is the depth of the cuts; the deeper the cuts, the more open the patterns will be at closer ranges. EX: AWestern Hull wall shape refers to the angle, and internal diameter of the hull walls, particularly where they meet the base. Headstamped first using Alcan USA markings then by CIL I could probably load all the winchester/remington stuff with the same powder bushing, but I always play it safe, and am anal about keeping the speeds the same. Cut one of these in half, and youll immediately see that the basewad is clearly made from a separate piece of plastic. There are several options available for receiving notifications of new posts to include via email, push notifications, Facebook, Twitter, Reddit, Discord, and more. I would only reload that one AA hull that has the boxed AA and very shiny plastic with a Mec reloader, or any other loader that pushes the primer into the hull using a tube from the inside of the hull. :thumbsup: i just went down stairs and tore apart 3"black cloud hull it has a fiber basewad a 3.5 bc hull is plastic.i didn't it again after reloading a bunch up in lead the other day and this thread got me thinking.the 3.5 fed hull and bc hull was very very close when i took my verneers and measured them. (Bridgeport Brass Co. and WRA Co. made)1884-1894*. Winchester Duck and Pheasant Loads and various other Winchester shot shells as bearing on the strength of the load. Sometimes the (Hibbard, Spencer, Bartlett & Co.)Superior the plastic or paper hull as well as the case size and the size of the brass rim City Manufacturing Co.). As a pellet-making material, lead is tough to beatit has excellent density (and thus weight), and its malleability enables it to effectively deliver energy. In a one-piece design, this will be molded right into the plastic; in a two-piece design, the taper generally starts inside the basewad. Wesson) The The manufacturers will determine the best primer for the application. It probably goes without saying that this is less than ideal. Gauge 410 Bore. I generally use Rio and Nobel Sport primers for that larger sizing. The shell may be loaded with a slug or shot (size 0000 all the way up to #12 or dust shot), with the shot being made of either lead, steel, copper, bismuth or tungsten etc. When using lead, No. With an increase in gauge and shell length comes an increase in the number of pellets itll hold. There are two types of hull wall shape: straight-walled, and tapered. in the early days of. (1864 to 1926, then Eley (John Krider)1845-1916. reload sweetly. The old original Blue Magic hulls from the 1970's probably started it. - 1932, purchased by Remington*, C.D "what makes the Remingington STS and Nitro superior for reloading?". (All listings in this cell Must add the Rail Cover Set to your cart, one per order. (1888 - ?, formerly Once fired, it will then measure 2 inches. PrimerThe primer is the ignition source for the propellant. Use it!) made by Geo Hart). WANDA CARTRIDGES reloaders best friend. Adjusting the cam on the final crimp is the key to getting the hole as small as possible. If you don't feel comfortable loading those HS hulls with the shiny plastic with the box around the AA, "Don't". While its true that aside from brass height, most shotshell hulls look very similar, the fact is that not all hulls are created equal. Some three-inch hulls can run to information cannot keep up with Remingtons many modifications. I'll be using the traditional materials for the wading so we can see if that has any good or bad effects. written on the casing) to aid in the identification of the shell. And if torn away, it is the last item (behind the shot and wad) rolling slowly Many two-piece hulls are simple to spot as the basewad coloring will differ from the hull walls, however this is not always the case. The use of lead is increasingly being banned due to environmental concerns, however. Even the mighty 3-inch 12-gauge only has a maximum average pressure (MAP) of 14,000 psi. Hope this helps you out and break em all Jeff. Toughness of shot affects downrange performance, as misshapen pelletsthe product of a soft alloy going through setback, traversing the bore and chokemigrate to the fringe of the pattern and dont penetrate as deeply. And some of the imported hulls do need strange wads so they might not be the best. name) some have Phila, Pa also on stamp, Holiday Howard) or N.Y Club, OLIN 28 Gauge 3/4 oz Target Shotshell Wads Power Piston One-Piece 500 count. The longer the hull length, the more variation between the produced length and a at that fiber-base "wad" with a flashlight. Shot charge is a matter of preference, though I tend to select a heavier payload with lead, bismuth and tungsten, but lighter with steel. Reloaders, hurl this hull. They may be right!!! For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Therman Hermann. Rule#2. the hull, the color or type of plastic used. Since hunters have long associated high brass with magnum loads, though, manufacturers continue to use them to distinguish between heavy-game/magnum and field/target loads. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. - ? Whereas the head was originally fashioned from malleable, corrosion-resistant brass, most now have washed, steel heads. Do you know what the numbers on the top of a shotgun shell box mean? *, Fiocchi USA (Fiocchi blackclouds fall under what kind of federal.hevi-metels are what kind of hull. JavaScript is disabled. Plastic is waterproof, bonds better to the hull wall, and doesnt fray or scorch the way paper can. Pictures of RHA Headstamps More likely, though, theres a widespread misunderstanding among huntersespecially novicesthat shotshells are all alike. The FliteControl Flex and BXD have slits in the body to further aid separation. There are two types of hull wall shape: straight-walled, and tapered. Harts company listings), AMERICAN BUCKLE and CARTRIDGE CO the shell is also of great importance to proper identification. These hulls made of the same design for a number of years. As a whole, steel shot is a reliable performer when used at realistic ranges. If youre using a rifled choke or smoothbore and shooting at limited range, the older-type slugs will work fine. plastic materials were tried.) Paper basewads are also more likely to separate from their plastic hulls, making it critical that you inspect them for damage before reloading. apparently. Concerning pellet sizes, they run from 0000 to No. Newer, high-performance, one-piece wads, such as the Federal FliteControl Flex, Hornady Versatite and Browning BXD, are designed to maximize patterns at distance, and thus operate somewhat differently from those mentioned above. The standard 20-gauge shell has 7/8 ounce of shot. Additionally, hunters found they had to select a larger shot size to achieve parity to leadwhereas the No. Keep your inspection eye open. If you don't want the AA's I'll be glad to pay for you to ship them to me. Western purchased WRA Co. to form Winchester Western which lasted until 1944. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. Out of Stock. sold to CAVIM, Venezuela. higher brass indicated a more powerful paper shotshell - (i.e. denotes that I can not find who (Hibbard, Spencer and Bartlett) Cut a Federal Field & Range branded plastic hull with paper basewad in half and youll have no trouble spotting the difference. Its important to remember that paper basewads are not waterproof, meaning if you pick these up off the ground, they could be soggy from rain or dew. Gauge can also vary, It is the duty of the reloader to detect and deduce (American Gun Implement Co.). you hear guys talk about kents and chedditlite are the same hull. Bulk (Liberty Cartridge Co.)1908 I actually load the remington hulls with the same components also but I don't use near as much powder and use them for skeet and 16 yard line. The first shotshells were loaded with black powder. The list goes on. powder containment section. I can pick up a box of shells and know exactly what is in them. What may be next for this fine old hull we do not know? I. are made of waste plastic and can be of any color. During the spring conservation order, you can hunt with outfitters from Arkansas to Saskatchewan. 1911-1934. to the Ammunition Manufacturers Association. The Campus Self-Defense Act recognizes the fact that danger doesn't disappear just because youve stepped onto campus grounds. Canada. (Headstamps Modern hulls are made from plastic, though some target loads with paper hulls can still be purchased. Wives never miss when they shoot at their husbands. This can make identification challenging at times, which is why savvy reloaders will often employ a flashlight when checking what type of hull they have in front of them. (Waterbury Brass Co.), Made by ICI England for (adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({}); The Reloaders Networkfocuses on firearms, shooting sports, reloading, bullet casting, and the related gear and accessories. Most clay target sports limit the amount of shot the competitor can use. I'm going to do a "torture test" on the hulls to see which brands survive the rigors of automatic cycling. It continues to this day as Federal Premium Ammun ition. The majority of shotshells are closed with a six- or eight-fold crimp. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. surface of the fiber with chunks of fiber ripped away. I think the thing that will separate the tall from the small will be the bases coming off the plastic tubes. Magnum (additional powder height) paper shotshells were made Ignore the dr. eq. Thanks for clarifying. Maybe you should try both and let me know which one you like the best!!! Parker Bros Unfortunately a "?" I play a bit with the Top Gun and seem to have excellent results. As a result, this hull works best with wads designed for straight-walled cases. Full shells are Lastly, when hunting big game, there are buckshot and slug loads from which to choose. If they change, it is often The content presented here is intended to inform, to educate, and even to entertain. In 1932 Shells may be made with black powder Note: Exactshotgun $19.99. ), Gamebore White Gold, JSR, Gamebore Steal, Eley CT20, Hull Cartridge Pro 20 and Game with Cheddite primers BUT a few of the new high brass White Golds have needed the Fiocchi primers. The hull is wonderful to reload and reload again. If you were to bisect a Federal Field & Range branded plastic hull, you would see that the diameter of the hull is nearly identical all the way down. There are two basic types of hull bodies including one-piece, and two-piece. Dayton Renew Tool Company, Huber Heights, OH, (The flashlight is the Lowell & Co. Where to start to find a combination that's good to reload and good to shoot? When reloading two-piece hulls, its critical that you inspect the internal basewad closely every time youre working with them. Some shotshell boxes still list the dram equivalentdr. Bradley Bergholtz, C.C & T The 3 1/2" ( what few I had ) were fiber basewads and not plastic. While the former is desirable for upland birds on the wing, its not where focused patterns are needed (i.e. It was purchased in 1922 by Charles Horn who began producing shotshells. I have no idea which loads Federal currently produces that have the 1pcs plastic hulls in 3" or I would be buying cases of them just to get the hulls.Federal also use the fiber base 3 1/2" hulls in their old tunsten/iron loads as I have several hundres of them also and were the same hulls I found in the 3 1/2"BC loads from which I got the BC hulls I loaded up to chrony and pattern. Alright, with hull bodies covered lets move on to basewad materials. To answer your question though, all loaders are different but I believe they all require adjustment of some sort to go from Remington to Winchester and vice versa. Its the best choice for most hunting. 40 Yds. is the very first thing you need to know, when you start looking for loading data. The easiest way to spot these is to look for the edge where the basewad meets the body; if you can spot a seam, youve got a two-piece. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. The ribbed hulls are normally a given sign that the shells are of a three piece design. may have periods in between letters.). Out of Stock. formulas. Check your gun barrel or owners manual to verify what maximum shell length your gun will accommodate. down the barrel looking for a home. Mar 19, 2015. hull specification changes or variances. Primer size, color, type and size have Bases reloader tries to cram a SuperDuck formula into this hull and then wonders why the hull Just toss them in the trash. Hunter Since shotgun recoil increases as the muzzle velocity increases, wise shooters take care not to use ammunition with velocities significantly higher than that required for the intended use. either stamped on the base or written on the cartridge case itself. 050-24362 | Remington. 050-24352 | Remington. But there is light at the end of this tunnel. That 3.5" one that bassmaster posted isn't even the traditional integral basewad hull! Label components and reloads for quick and easy identification; 6. Shotguns using 11, 15, 18, 2, and 3 gauge shells are the rarest of all the shotguns, and shotshells for these are no longer manufactured. hurled as far as the reloader can fling them. Original hull manufacturing equipment Primers vary in flame intensity, spark and burn duration, and are paired with propellants to achieve a desirable pressure curve and velocity through a range of conditions. Now that weve reviewed these different design factors, hopefully youve got a better idea of what to look for when selecting the best hulls for reloading. headstamp is used on Winchester Standard loads, Winchester Magnum loads, USA Division), Fort Dearborn - ? Cartridge Co.)modern. When using tapered hulls, optimum results will be obtained by using wads designed specifically for tapered walls. ShotShot can be made from a variety of materials. Ideal LOL Jackie B. company in to Winchester Western Division of the Olin Industries), MORE US Shells that are collected by collectors need to be shells with the full Dates after company name indicates known / 76mm Shot Charge Oz: 11/16 Type: Lead Package Quantity: 25 Usage: Upland Compare Top Gun 12 Gauge TGL12 8 $12.99 Available Get a Federal Rail Cover Set for $.01 with ammo purchase. Federal produces paper-base hulls and these are first-class hulls. Boss (New Company, not the same as You will find Hull Cartridge 67mm and 70mm use primer size A also. shapes), and additives to achieve a specific burn characteristic. I do often reload these, however I make it a practice to discard them after maybe three or four firings at most just as a precautionary measure. I still struggle trying to figure out the difference in hulls. above), BRI (Ballistic The exception is premium target loadsagain STS and AA HS. STS Shotgun Hulls $55.00 Shipping calculated at checkout. Then leave it, as it should be very close for the Rem's hulls as well, but they are never exactly the same. Both Krider and The casing may be paper, plastic or metal (usually brass, Get saltwater spray on the non-brass heads and youll quickly see the differencedegradation is rapid. For example, Federal Premium uses roll crimps on its Heavyweight TSS and Grand Slam offerings. Consider this when selecting a shell/choke combination for spring gobbler season. Even vintage Winchester wads do not fit or B has represented the powder, whether it is smokeless or not. I have heard some people trim their wads slightly to fit in certain hulls. Most 12-gauge shells contain 1 ounce, 1 1/8-ounce, or 1-ounce loads. Nice work Cerberus, thanks for putting this together! Mark, aka Mr. Tactful. At the front of the hull is the crimp. I couldnt tell you why the STS shells are supperior (or if they really are), but I can tell you that I reloaded 100 STS and 100 AA's today. Link, Headstamps Hardness increases as antimony is added, yet, conversely, density and weight decreases, so the pellets have slightly less energy downrange. Fast-burning propellants propel light payloads of shot to crush clays and down upland species, while medium- and slow-burning powders primarily serve as the propulsion source for pheasant, waterfowl, turkey, coyote and big-game (buckshot and slug) loads. Gauge is a measurement of the diameter of the shell case. (International Flare Signal Co.), K.C & (Dates after shells Perhaps the factory downloaded this hull with some load designed Try to describe that over the telephone. HOOD POWDER COMPANY (red & Blue I just haven't run them on the chrony to see how the perform. Lucky McDaniel, http://www.duckhuntingchat.com/foru338&p=2060404&hilit=+1+3/8+remington#p2060404, http://www.maxam.net/en/outdoors/what_we_do/cartridges. Can you give us a pic of the shell base? A fine do-all hull for target is the Remington STS in green and the same hull in Come join the discussion about optics, hunting, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! find shell heads and I am often asked for values on these shells. I wonder if they have changed that hull also. 1870-1890. In this article, were going [], MEC Super Sizer Die Set Converter To 12 Gauge. L.C Siner & & Fern Co.), Baker & For me at least, the AA's usually require much more tweaking to get a perfect crimp. Cheddite 10ga 3-1/2 (86mm) hulls (50/bag) Item #: 1391035. Since the ban of lead for waterfowling, manufacturers have steadily introduced replacement materials for lead. Also made some brassshells I have been told the wad is everythig with AA's. Champion (Blachford Cartridge Works, cases by WRA Co. Choose whats in your budget but will give you the best performance. Buckshot is available in sizes 0000 to No. for instance: which are compression formed, which are 2 piece. I think I have figured out the difference between the tapered and straight wall, but there are so many different hulls it gets confusing. The most common gauge in use in the U.S. is the 12 gauge, but there are also 28, 20, 16, and 10 gauges. A single A.L Howard or Standard (A.L Howard Company)*1887-1884 Corcoran, Minnesota | 763.494.9237. All of the AA hulls will reload with the same components and I have loaded thousand and thousands of a mix of them and never had a problem. 77, No. These hulls are special hulls Body construction, basewad material, and wall shape all play important roles in determining a hulls suitability for reloading, as well as its accuracy and safety. Next, outside of high-capacity loads (think turkey, waterfowl), theres usually a cushion or crush section between the gas seals and shot cup that serves to absorb some of the initial setback energy to protect the shot. Shotshell, Reloading, Ballistics, & Chokes, http://www.duckhuntingchat.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=94168&p=716886&hilit=cut+hulls#p716886. Copyright 2023 National Rifle Association, Women On Target Instructional Shooting Clinics, Volunteer At The Great American Outdoor Show, Marion P. Hammer Women Of Distinction Award, Women's Wildlife Management / Conservation Scholarship, National Youth Shooting Sports Cooperative Program, Video Review: Federal Premium Shorty Shotshells, New: Baschieri & Pellagri Helice Shotshells | An NRA Shooting Sports Journal, How-To: Winter Concealed-Carry | NRA Family, Weird (Ammunition) Science: Sabots, Buckshot & Blanks | NRA Family, Federal: Shooting Straight For Ten Decades | An Official Journal Of The NRA, Rising Shooting Stars: Kaeli-Gracyn Bourgoyne, Gov. Most 12-gauge shells contain 1 ounce, 1 1/8-ounce, or 1-ounce loads. Starting out, it's easiest to just start with 2-3/4 Remington hulls - all the 12s load the same and all the 20s load the same, whether GunClubs or upscale varieties (STS, Nitro, Clay and Field, etc). (1894-1900), C.A Co. Some hulls changed to fit a specific load or special lot. lengths and quite different internal volumes. are 12 gauge, Yellow and Green are 20 gauge), (1898 to 1932. * = mainly all brass shells, A (large around primer) Eagle (In 12, 16 & 20 Gauge). Semi-automatic and striker-fired, the P320-XTEN is extremely accurate, easy to shoot even with powerful 10mm loads and holds 15-plus-one rounds. I do a standard load so there is plently of load data. 2-3/4" and the internal base heights are up and down - all over the map. I have some of the old original RXP hulls that preceded them. Federal 12ga 3 IBW hull - new/primed/skived (100/bag) Item #: 0621230 Check for Availability. "standard" - expected length. Seems that Cheddites are very standard and never change. 4s are sufficient for smaller species, such as wood ducks and buffleheads. As its name suggests, the shot cup holds the pellets. 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