You can click here to access the PDF. Cons: With such a short zero distance, you are really Arcing thing bullet. 36 is a good combat zero (where just hitting center mass is the goal) but definitely not the best for a precision/long range setup. To say it differently, where would my rounds hit on a 6 in target at 10 yards if I had a 50 yard zero? One shows it compared to a 100 yard zero and the other shows it compared to different rounds. Two minutes and a ballistic calculator will show you this zero creates an arching trajectory that rises about 9 above the line of sight at 200 yards. There is no remembering hold unders, you just aim a little high inside 100 and keep going higher past 100. At 25 yards, groups are .7" inches high above center of target, just under 3/4", w/ rear sight set on "2"- so a 200 meter battle zero is a little better. Go with it. One suggestion. Been using Shawns 36 yard zero targets for a while to zero all my ARs. WTH you want to chase all the old guys away. SIGHTS ARE ZEROED TO THE WEAPON, NOT TO THE PERSON SHOOTING THE RIFLE Either the sight is matched to the bullet trajectory, or it isn't. Temp was in low 40s, but windchill made it much colder. ._3-SW6hQX6gXK9G4FM74obr{display:inline-block;vertical-align:text-bottom;width:16px;height:16px;font-size:16px;line-height:16px} It is a simple target with a 1.9 grid and two dots. I have been putting it to good use. I prefer to zero at 36 yards, for the reasons provided in the video above. Find it here on Amazon: https://amzn.to/3aAzerSPatreon: https://www.patreon.com/kotaboy32Email: kotabo. Sorry, your blog cannot share posts by email. 36yd zero, then memorize the remaining holds throughout the effective range of my load (bullet's min velocity for expansion, min energy, etc). For a 10.5 inch barrel, the 50 or 36-yard zero will be ideal. Sorry about that, thats just the way the chart shows up on my ballistic calculator app. So this zero drops quickly past 300 yards. Don't overthink this. Should I just go with a 50 yard zero since it is a a tighter holdat ranges? Sight in at fifty yards so that most of the group (5 -10 shots) falls in the lower half of the dot. Accuracy Profile: Ballistic Advantage 16 Inch SPR. 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Its also not his fault that that is how the APP is designed, would you have preferred him contacting the app designer to have him change the coding on the app just so Johnny can read it? ._3Z6MIaeww5ZxzFqWHAEUxa{margin-top:8px}._3Z6MIaeww5ZxzFqWHAEUxa ._3EpRuHW1VpLFcj-lugsvP_{color:inherit}._3Z6MIaeww5ZxzFqWHAEUxa svg._31U86fGhtxsxdGmOUf3KOM{color:inherit;fill:inherit;padding-right:8px}._3Z6MIaeww5ZxzFqWHAEUxa ._2mk9m3mkUAeEGtGQLNCVsJ{font-family:Noto Sans,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-weight:400;line-height:18px;color:inherit} In that trajectory chart above, I'm a max of 1.4 mils high at 100 yards, 1.7 mils low at 450 yards, and dead-on at 300 yards, as far as holdovers. Grabbed it and went out today to sight it in at 36 yards. and opinions expressed on this website are those of the authors and do not necessarily reflect the
Click to expand. My .02, 36 yard zero covered by a CD (4.65")out to 300 yrds. Put dot on center mass. Everything inside 100 yards and past 100 yards you hold high. I was recently reading about the 36 yard zero and would like to try it out. The 36/300 zero is where its at for irons or red dots. On the flip side, if you are guarding some tower and the terrain is very open and far, 25 or 36 might be the way to go. 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In both exercises I didnt feel I had to work harder to get hits using one zero or the other. Sorry for my ignorance, can you explain the large target waterline test? For a standard 16 barrel shooting 223/5.56, the 50-yard zero is the flattest shooting and you just need to remember that last 200 yards you start to aim higher and 300 yards, as long as you can see your target, wont be impossible to hit with a red dot. It produces the narrowest range between the maximum rise and drop values (9.86"). Repeated trips walking up and down the range and hopefully you are at least on paper for your first group Well, Frank Proctor, from Way of the Gun, and Jerking the Trigger have come up with a great target. The 25/36 yard options are better suited for home/self defense. The black represents your point of aim. Tungsten penetrator ). I sight mine at 10 yards for both sport shooting and SD. Cons: None. Posted February 16, 2015 in Optics, Rifles by Nathan S with 22 CommentsTags: City Shooting, JTT, Making Things Easy, targets. Therefore, with a 26-yard zero, you can hold on the target and expect to hit a 6-inch vital zone from 0 . Also, a - means hold under and a + means to hold over. It is a very fast way to zero an AR-15 which is very convenient for me since many of my carbines are in a constant state of flux as I try various items for review. 09 at 50 yards for a 230 yard zero, max point blank range for deer would be 270 yards. It is a simple target with a 1.9 grid and two dots. Easier softer ways avail us nothing. I prefer 200 yard zero for anything meant to shoot beyond 200 yards. I like that idea, if I make another article like this I will see if I can do that. You should always check your zero at the actual zero distance when possible but this will get you close. Thanks. The graph shows that your .270 Win. 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The USMC method sees you zero at 36-yards for the initial intersection and that gets you all the way out to 300-yards. This should put most of a group in the top half of a one inch dot at twenty-five yards. All the explaining I'm not going to do is in this video. 36 is a good combat zero(where just hitting center mass is the goal) but definitely not the best for a precision/long range setup. A quick copy of the original article is below and you can link to it directly by clicking here. This kind of medium range shooting should be easy if you zero at 100 yards and then adjust your elevation for a 200-yard shot. As for why I would want a different zero for my red dot I would just like to be a little more confident when shooting at ranges beyond 100 yards. Then go out and check it. 110 TSX 19.8 inches low at 300 yards with a 36 yard zero. Place the target at 25 yards. To print the target, click the last link and be sure to follow the instructions on printing. That brings me to these two options, which Id like to talk about together because theyre pretty similar and do well to exploit the advantages of a practical carbine. Through Science! Does that back into a 36 yard zero? 36 Yard Zero for .556? 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